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On point, sista! I loved Roy, his girlfriend and his hipster kids. I thought poor Cory was going to cry or drown himself in alcohol when they spent 8 friggin’ hours trying to get the trucks it.
Loretta……….She needs to have some serious medical care. These are your KIDS! I just wanted to smack her noodle limp husbo in the head. Grrrrr.
I liked their whole family, too, just seemed like lovely, thoughtful people – a rarity on this show. (I did want to wax that mustache, because I’m a terrible person. I’m sorry Athena. I’m sure you’re into brains and not looks. You’re cute, though. But Nads, look into it.)
I’m reading Cory on the message boards, he said this is the most expensive clean up in the show’s history, and it’s because of all the problems they’ve encountered. I panicked when that massive front end loader started slipping backwards, canted to one side.
Ugh, wasn’t Loretta the worst?! I’m probably the worst, too, because I have no sympathy for that type of person. NONE. Her husband needed to grow a pair. Loved the niece, she was not having any of those shenanigans, good for her.
I’ve seen a few episodes of this series but none recently, though I do love (absolutely love) to read the recaps.
But just reading the recap makes me seethe. My aunt was just like Loretta, except she couldn’t have kids, so she had dogs instead (23 was the most at one time, I think, but that didn’t include all the ducks and chickens and other animals that she raised from babies). She had a trailer moved to her house so that she could store even more stuff. Stuff, stuff, everywhere.
And if you didn’t pay enough attention to her (and it was never, ever enough) it was like she was sitting at home, pouting and saying “nobody loves me, everybody hates me, I may as well go eat worms.”
It’s just starting back up, this is the third episode of the season (so you’re getting on board with plenty of time for the rest!)
Oh, the poor animals. Children and animals (or an invalid partner/spouse) in the house with that level of hoarding just upsets me to my core. When you can see that the person is willing to get help, willing to try something, I can get behind it. But those confrontational, selfish types? I don’t do well at all with that.
What a frustrating situation for your family! They create an environment that discourages interaction, then get angry for people not interacting with them. No one wins.
Oh man, your reviews and Kathy Griffin’s stand up bit about this show made me need to rewatch it. I don’t have TV, so I have been just watching what is available on A&E’s website. I think it is mostly past seasons, tho this episode is up there currently as well. (I will be watching it when Lin gets home from work)
The roomie Lin and I are down with the plague, so we decided to just curl up on the couch and watch a Hoarders marathon a few nights ago. Oh man. I have a bit of clutter and while I do have emotional attachments to objects (Lin tells me that I tend to tell her stories about random objects) I am able to throw things away and don’t actually own many things. I am, however, COMPULSIVELY clean about my kitchen. If food is prepared/stored/eaten there, it has to be clean. Lin is just clean about…well..everything. Obsessively so as well. But being sick, a few things have started to get less tidy then usual.
So when we were exposed to horror after horror of these hoarder houses, it was like an alarm went off in our heads. Sick as we were, the next day we went out, purchased a ton of cleaning supplies and cleaned house, literally. She Lysol’d the crap out of everything (while still running a fever) and I was out weeding our overgrown brick patio (in crazy heat while coughing my lungs out). Thing got put away. Surfaces were disinfected. Laundry was washed. Shit got -done-. I understand now why you have to clean before watching this show because it MAKES YOU NEED TO BE EVERYTHING PEOPLE ON THIS SHOW ARE NOT. *shudder*
That being said, are you going to go back and review past seasons? There are a few episodes I really want to see your take on. Especially because a couple people on the show seemed to me not so much as hoarders as folks who, while a little off in the head, were just lazy and wanted folks to come clean FOR THEM. I dunno.
I thought A&E were hosting full episodes a week behind? No? (Hulu it is, then!) Sorry that you’re sick! But are you sure this is the best show to watch? Ha, ha, my germaphobia (which is minimal) would kick in at the snotty tissues. Then again, I clearly have my own issues. :)
I buy Lysol in bulk, too. I just… I need to clean all the things if only to not suffer from guilt when the show airs (I should have cleaned this, that, blah blah.) So in that respect, this show is great for me. I also am totally fascinated by the therapists, the causes, etc.
I reviewed a few eps from prior seasons on a previous blog, I’ve been toying with bringing them over here. And I agree that there have been some folks who seem to have just used this as a cleaning service, not as a tool for better mental health (which makes me SO MAD.)
Oh yes! Please bring the reviews over! I think I may have read them if they are on your LJ, but is so much easier to have them all in one neat, organized little place! :)
They are on my LJ! But I’d most likely flesh them out a bit more. And thanks! I probably won’t be able to get to it right away, but will post that they’re updated. :)
Holy moly, I actually watched an episode of something you’re reviewing the same time you did! I’m very excited.
This was one of the most depressing episode of Hoarders I’ve ever seen, because usually if people are on this show, they’re ready to receive help even if it panics them to do so. These two were just not at that point. OMG, the rain and the mud and the maggoty towel that Roy wouldn’t give up. It was like hell, but wetter. I felt so sorry for the entire crew, especially when the truck with the crushed vehicles overturned at the end. Yowza. Hugs and hot chocolate at my house, everybody!
As for Loretta, I’ve never felt less sympathy for a hoarder in my life. I went between wanting to slap her, and violently shake her husband until his brains/balls rattled into action. I’ve never seen anyone less interested in examining herself and her motives for how her life got to this point. She just shut down when anyone dared question her decisions. It was actually fascinating to watch, if it wasn’t for her kids. She should sell all those clothes for the massive amounts of therapy they’re going to need with her as a mother. Except she’ll be screaming, “MORE WIRE HANGERS!!!!” LOL.
I’m excited too! Lol.
Boy, were these two not interested in help. That happens often, but they have no choice as Animal Control or CPS is standing outside, but neither was true in this case. I can get why Roy is that “I cannot waste anything!” type of person, but… That towel was nasty. Not to mention that the vehicles could have been repurposed in a SMELTER. And not against those trees. Oh, that overturned truck! Didn’t your heart sink? Cory Chalmers looked like he might just start crying, his frustration was so palpable.
Ugh, Loretta. I’m following Dr. Reinhardy and she’s mentioned that Loretta absolutely refused to look at herself in any meaningful way. Very much a pass the blame person. I found her to be utterly childish and manipulative. No me gusta. I couldn’t believe the clothes! Oh, and TWO cribs. TWO. Both filled with stuff. (Hahaha, she probably has a garage filled with wooden hangars, just waiting for the miracle day something gets hung. Which always makes me wonder where the hell these people iron/wash their clothes? Leaving everything in piles is going to put crazy wrinkles in everything, and her husband has a regular job!)
Missed this ep yesterday so will have to catch online. Roy sounds like a great example of how mental illness has nothing to do with intelligence. He’s got more brainpower than most of the people in the room, but something in him won’t let him let go of a maggoty towel.
As for Loretta, I’ll have to get back to you when I see her in action. I wonder if she might be borderline. I get twitchy about saying that about people on TV because people love to toss that diagnosis towards anyone on TV. But one of the things with someone with borderline is that if you’re around them you will bend over backwards to keep them from blowing up at you, which could explain why her husband didn’t go back to get her stuff himself.
Exactly re: Roy. He really is fascinating. Further conversation from him reveals that the county (according to him) has been pressuring him to sell his land so it can be converted into 300 homes. Ugh. Hopefully that’s not a potential outcome of this.
SEE. THIS. Borderline Personality, something. My hinky meter went way off on that stuff, but yeah. I’m not a doctor, I just play one with my husband. Hurr. *cough* as the daughter of someone with Borderline Personality Disorder, that’s most likely why I react to her the way I do. Not even going to act like I don’t have a bias clouding me on this one.
Yeah, Borderline is one of those ones where once you’ve been around it your body just forms this instinctive reaction whenever you see it again. (bipoloar can be like that too) I think it’s beccause it’s one of those illnesses where those who have it can easily drag people around them into the crazy.
That’d be a shame if the land got sold for houses. But then I also have an instictive reaction to McMansions.
oooooh, yeah. Massive instinctive reaction to that stuff. Everyone walking around her on egg shells? The melodramatic crying after glancing quickly at the camera? Ugh.
I get that people need houses, but do they have to bulldoze REDWOODS to have them? He re-forested a large portion of his land, as well, converted from a vineyard and a few small houses. In his own way, he’s trying. He just has far more stuff than any person could ever use.
WALKING ON EGGSHELLS, yes. Not that I have strong reactions here or anything.
LOOK AT ME, KNEE-JERKING! I mean, everyone was cowed by that tiny scrap of a woman. I just feel for the kids. Bah.
According to Dr. Reinhardy’s board, Loretta is making good strides in therapy, so there’s that. Keep up the work, Loretta.
I’ve been watching Season One (I think Hoarders is a show where it doesn’t matter if you’re spoiled, for a show where there’s not much variation on what happens it still manages to be compelling viewing) and it’s kind of nice in a horrible, ugly way to see someone with actual mental health issues who is concerned about their property being disposed of (and is going to get help for it), rather than someone living in a mess of filth and decay who watches other people clean up their house with barely a shrug of their shoulders as what has happened a couple of times, which is like Wah? Isn’t the name of it Hoarders, not Lazy Dirty People?
I’ve seen an episode or two where it definitely seemed like a person was using the crew as a way to get their house clean, not because they believed themselves to have OCD/Anxiety/Hoarding issues and the therapists and organizers were visibly upset. [I'm thinking this was what you were saying?] I just have no idea what was going on with this one woman this episode. She’s… well, there’s more going on there. 22 minutes of a show isn’t going to explain it, I know, but still. I found that one storyline to be aggravating as hell.
This was one of those “no one wins” episodes, and normally it’s great to see what changes can happen with people, etc. etc.
Yeah, that’s what I was saying, but in a confusing and muddled way – I like people to work to get something vaguely comprehensible out of me.
Sometimes people have actual issues, sometimes people are douchbags, and sometimes people are a scintillating combination of both of these things.
But just think of the miracle of life and that newborn that will be arriving to live in that house, that’ll cheer you u…oh wait!
AHAHAHA. If you used the same damn log in, I would know it was you.
This was definitely a combination of actual issues meeting a douchebag. And my head went kersplewy.
OMG, Lol.
I AM A WOMAN OF MYSTERY! And a man of inscrutability. I am working on the premise that no matter what name I go under you should be able to tell it’s me by the time you get down to the third sentence, I am just that special.
Man, I hope if they do a return visit to that place that the baby isn’t doing a flattened cat impersonation under the piles of regrown crap. I bet they’d have to pixilate that find!
And this is why I love reading you recaps, because I could NOT have watched that episode! Usually it’s because it’s so gross I want to vomit, but I think I would have gotten so mad at Loretta I would have had to turn it off.
The people here were just item hoarders, they didn’t have filth/animals/fecal matter involved, which was a huge sigh of relief. [flashing back to the one with the guy and the rabbits, oh my GOD he was horrible!! his poor partner and landlords!]
The first and last one I ever saw was the very first episode with the older lady who couldn’t throw any food away because it might still be good. Oh man, I almost ran to the bathroom 3 times. That lady was so sweet though, she seemed pretty reasonable and soft spoken for most of these hoarders.
That is AMAZING that you heard back from Roy! He seemed nice (I didn’t watch, though, I just read your recaps, so there’s that).
THANK. YOU. This is part of why I’m having an issue with the latest ep of True Blood… there’s a rape threat (made to three characters including a rape survivor), a false claim of assault/potentially of rape, an onscreen rape (with insinuation of future gang rape), and a sarcastic rape joke in one hour of television. *”over it” hands* Rape is rape is rape is rape. Your blog is hacked? NOT RAPE. Gas prices go up? NOT RAPE. Professor gives you a bad grade? NOT RAPE. You’re mugged? NOT RAPE.
And (sadly) knowing people like Loretta, the performative helplessness never stops being incredibly grating. Aneurotypicality doesn’t mean a person’s not a manipulative, narcissistic bully– and having feelings of fondness for, or feeling “ownership” over, people they care about doesn’t justify any of it. Obviously, people are going to make their own definitions of what love is and what constitutes a healthy relationship, but that’s a person who can be an emotional and psychological drain on people who do legitimately care for them.
Oh, True Blood, there is so much wrong with it (and yet I KEEP WATCHING) that I just have to hand wave it and know I’m smarter than the material, you know? I’ve gone off at length about the abuse of the word “rape” when meant in that earnest, “they took my Corn Nuts from my trembling hands!” manner. Bah.
And yes – having a mental disorder comes with a host of behavioral problems in many cases. But you don’t get to be a bully, and I’m still gonna call that out, because I can’t abide it. YMMV, etc. but yeah. You could see how much of a drain Loretta was to those around her.
I went on to the U.S. Patent search site and was NOT able to find any patents in the name of Roy Kaylor. I also tried “Leroy” and “R*” — nada. Did anybody really check his story?
This was discussed on A&E’s board, and from what I was able to learn, he did have actual patents, but it wasn’t specified as to what inventions they were for. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that he invented things, sold them, and maybe thought about getting patens after the fact. But I don’t know, I just go off the information on the show and what I hear back from the doctors/professional organizers.
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