Vikings 1.08 & 1.09

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Vikings airs Sundays at 10 p.m. on The History Channel

PREVIOUSLY, ON VIKINGS: Ragnar invited King Aella’s unending hatred by murdering his brother, and Lagertha miscarried. That’s it.

Okay, full disclosure! This is an email I sent to Laura on April 23:

OKAY AS YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED I HAVE NOT FINISHED THE VIKINGS RECAP YET BUT. I have a problem. This past episode made me so fucking angry with every aspect of it that I know I definitely can’t be funny about it, and probably can’t even be impartial and do a dry basic “this is what happened” recap (which nobody would want to read anyway). It’s like they took everything I loved about the show and fucked it up in every possible direction and I don’t know what to do! I’ve been trying to write it for like two days, and I’m just so frustrated with it that I keep stopping. I know HDJM is supposed to be positive but I genuinely didn’t enjoy a single thing about the episode. WAT DO I DO HOW DO I WRITE ABOUT IT OMG. :(

At that point I also had what I can only assume was machupo, so I figured that maybe by the finale A) I would be better and B) so would the show. MAIS NON. Something terrible happened between episode seven and episode eight that turned a previously literally perfect show into a hideously-paced mess of destroyed characterization and nonsensical plotting. Laura emailed me back pretending to be Oprah and gave me a special dispensation to “write my truth,” so it’s gonna get complainy in here. I FULLY UNDERSTAND IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO READ FURTHER AS THIS WILL NOT BE A RECAP AND WILL PROBABLY NOT BE FUNNY. Just for completion’s sake, I wanted to put this down–because I did really adore this show, and will maintain that the first six episodes are worth it all on their own. Its downhill journey was just so fast and so furious that the only explanation is darck magicks.

The only other show I’ve ever felt like this about was Community, but that show had 3 seasons to make me fall in love with it and there was a discernible reason for why I can’t stand it now. I was sold on Vikings after the first episode, and I seriously have no idea how this disaster happened.

SUMMARY OF 1.08: Everybody went to Uppsala for a camping in the woods party that involved lots of drinking, shrooming, fucking, and ritual sacrificing, like all good camping in the woods parties do. The ~big shocker~ moment of Ragnar’s betrayal of Athelstan (he’s brought Athelstan along as one of the volunteer human sacrifices) is at once totally telegraphed and annoyingly out of character. We know he’s gonna get offered up as soon as a twitchy, depressed Ragnar starts questioning him about Christianity again and asks him to come to Uppsala (saying he would have brought him even if he refused), but it doesn’t make any sense. It’s fair to assume that Ragnar’s emotional instability (ostensibly due to Lagertha’s miscarriage, except he was acting kinda crazy before that) might lead him to making some weird decisions, but sacrificing Athelstan doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Particularly because he had to know Athelstan wasn’t a suitable sacrifice on account of still being pretty religiously Christian, and in fact says as much after the Seer declares Athelstan unfit to ritually murder. Leif volunteers instead–OH NO, LEIF!–and the last scene is actually very emotionally effecting. But it’s the only one.

Ragnar also pulls away from Lagertha, which is something that would make sense if they hadn’t spent all of the previous episodes establishing his unwavering love for her. In the real Viking society, Lagertha’s miscarriage might have been a legitimate reason for Ragnar to start acting like a neglectful asshole to her, but show-wise? To make Ragnar a relatable, likeable character, they put a lot of work into framing his marriage as more or less equal and loving, and it paid off. For him to suddenly only value her for her ability to produce sons goes in completely the opposite direction of all the characterization they’ve given Ragnar, and it’s so weird and uncomfortable that I really hated it. They had to use this trope in order to make the events of the next episode make sense, but it’s still gross. Also gross is how she suddenly is cast in the role of nag, and spends most of the episode praying for another baby and asking Ragnar not to go out partying. Which, again, WOULD MAKE SENSE IF WE DIDN’T ALREADY KNOW HOW LAGERTHA ACTUALLY WAS. The time jumps don’t help the situation, as we don’t know how much time has passed or what they’ve been doing in that time. Have they tried for more kids? Have other things happened to strain their marriage this much? We don’t know, and we never will.

The stuff with Rollo and how he’s a complete Schrodinger’s traitor at this point is also extremely tedious.

The episode wasn’t boring, and there were one or two good moments–mainly the sacrifice scenes and the blood baptism at the beginning, when Travis Fimmel didn’t flinch from the blood droplets being flicked directly into his eyeball. But the episode made no sense and seemed out of place and shook my previously unshakeable faith in the writers. UNFORTUNATE.

SUMMARY OF EPISODE 1.09: ALL CHANGE And this episode actually was boring, for the most part. I think the show was always strongest when Ragnar and Lagertha were in the same place, whether it was at home or on a raid, and the only interesting parts of this episode were Lagertha’s. While Ragnar was off doing shit in Sweden for his new friend King Horik (Donal Logue, who is actually wonderful at all times), a plague annihilated Kattegatt. Lagertha handled it as best she could, but both Gyda and Thyrri ended up dying, with Athelstan almost succumbing as well. I’m irrationally angry about Gyda’s death specifically–she had just started bleeding!–because she could have been an amazing foil for most of the other characters, as a relatively (as we saw her) gentle girl. It’s disappointing, because there’s not another character that’s really like her in the series. Plus, now Lagertha is going to be sad, and Ragnar’s probably going to use this as an excuse to ditch his family.

WHICH HE IS ALREADY DOING. His negotiations with Horik’s enemy, Earl Borg, break down because Horik doesn’t accept the terms and still wants Borg’s land. So while he’s hanging around in Sweden, his men come across some scary hottie bathing in a river, and he gives her A Test that she passes, so then they fuck. ????? I just don’t get it. This pisses off Bjorn because they fuck in front of him, and Ragnar’s basically like “Yeah I love your mom but her vagina isn’t here? And this one is?” and it’s just all gross and awful. And extra gross and awful when it turns out that the scary hottie, Aslaug, is pregnant, and the season ends with Ragnar seemingly pretty happy with this.

Meanwhile somewhere else Rollo promises to betray Ragnar for like the 80th time. YAWN.

I honestly don’t know what went wrong with the series, because there are a lot of things I hated but that I might not have hated if they hadn’t taken place in the course of one episode. If Ragnar and Lagertha’s growing apart had happened over the course of the first two seasons instead of two episodes, it might have made more sense. If Rollo would pick a side and stick to it (even if that side was just his own), his storyline wouldn’t be so dull. If the show could decide whether it wants to be Historically Accurate or Relatably Entertaining, I might not have ended this relationship on such a sour note. As it stands, I don’t know if I’ll be watching the second season, because the end of the first one bummed me out so bad. I am, however, down for some discussion, so feel free to comment if you want to talk it out!

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  • The problem with this show is that the writers started phoning in the emotional development towards the end and suggesting things, but not resolving them. The weird time jumps and pacing issues certainly don’t help, and by not filling in those blanks, it leaves the characters acting weirdly OOC and the viewer unable to determine what their motive really is.

    My theory is that Ragnar KNEW that Athelstan would very likely be rejected as a sacrifice, but he thought that as he was the outsider, he was obliged to offer him up anyway (which makes absolutely no sense in that we know that sacrifices have to be informed and willing anyhow).

    That said, Ragnar’s so thirsty for sons that had Athelstan been sacrificed, it would have sucked for him, because Athelstan’s pretty much Ragnar’s prize possession, but I think it would have been at least acceptable that meant he got more sons. The fact that the writers totally left Ragnar’s motives ambiguous is infinitely frustrating, because now you don’t know what Ragnar’s frame of mind is other than this formerly pretty fair dude with an impulsive streak is now becoming a flaming asshole. I miss not-asshole Ragnar.

    The other thing– they never resolved whether Siggy had a hand in Lagertha’s miscarriage. Like, you SEE her scheming with Rollo to supplant Ragnar, she knows from experience that sons are super important, and Lagertha magically starts having fertility issues right as Siggy shows up… but again, they leave it hanging.

    So, tl;dr, I am just as frustrated as you are. I thought the sacrifice scene in ep 8 was absolutely stunning, but the OOC-ness, particularly in the last episode put a major damper on my love for this season. I am hoping that season 2 is just “Lagertha is a bad-ass Earl, ’cause eff Ragnar, man.”

    PS, why spend the time with Haraldson’s nightmares about his sons’ murder and then not explain that backstory? Because it seemed that they were setting up a theme there, and then totally abandoned it.

    PPS, her name sounds like Ass Log. That’s what I’ll be calling her. Because I am twelve.

    • Sam H.

      That’s exactly it. There’s a bunch of stuff missing that would have taken us from point A to point B in a satisfying manner, but it’s just not there because the last episodes were so rushed. I like to pretend I’m a writer, so bad writing stands out more than anything. This was bad writing.

      Also we feel the same way about EVERYTHING, especially the Siggy issue. There was so much that was just not there, and it’s infuriating. I would definitely watch season two if it was Lagertha ruling and Ragnar popping in like a crazy neighbor once in a while, but that’s it.

      RE: PS: Since the combat episode was where I was like “hmmmm things are moving awkwardly fast,” that backstory’s probably one of the things that got sacrificed in the mad dash to get to the Horik-Sweden-Aslaug stuff. It’s a bummer.

      RE: PPS: FAIR ENOUGH

    • Greg

      An I the only one who thought Ragnar was an asshole for killing unarmed monks seriously? A group of men who did nothing but and make their own resources but that’s my opinion.

      • Sam H.

        Nah, he was a TOTAL asshole for killing all those monks. They were just trying to do their own thing and got slaughtered and kidnapped for it. It was especially weird because I was under the assumption from his talk about religion and stuff in the beginning of the show that he wanted to see what they were all about.

  • Wow, apparently I, too, have a lot of feelings.

    • Sam H.

      FEELINGS ARE OKAY. WE ARE ALL ABOUT FEELINGS HERE.

  • Barbara

    I think these episodes just made me realize that my fondness for characters in this show is very much tied to how well they’re treating Lagertha. I really liked Ragnar at first and I thought it was because I found his brand of crazy recklessness exciting, but no. The second he started being a dick towards Lagertha I was just like, “How very dare you?” And that stupid finale had me so annoyed. I had to fast forward through his scenes because every time he appeared I was just overcome with the urge to flip a table over and yell out “Prostitution whore!” at the screen.

    • Sam H.

      !!!! You nailed it. Lagertha is such an amazing character, and in a way functions as a better view into the world than the actual viewpoint character, Athelstan (because we probably want to be Lagertha, not him). I TAKE ALL OFFENSES IN HER DIRECTION AS PERSONAL INSULTS.

      ahahaha, prostitution whore

  • Adele Quested

    What you forget is that Ragnar has always been portrayed as a man almost pathologically obsessed with his own myth. He has some incredibly attractive qualities (eg. a certain mental flexiblity, a certain playfulness, the intellectual curiosity; the body of a former Calvin-Klein underwear model) so it’s tempting to see him as better than he is to get the perfect package, but in truth, the signs of his shittiness have been there from the start (eg. how can the Athelstan sacrifice come as any surprise after the shitty bait-and-switch stunt Ragnar pulled on him with the girl in the tent at Haraldson’s funeral?). It’s the halo-effect – we got mesmerized by the good stuff so that we were blinded to the naked ambition, the underhandedness, the self-absorption. But it was always all there from the start – it’s in “Odin gave his life for knowledge, but I would give so much more” (well obviously, Ragnar is willing to sacrifice others, not just himself); it’s in the bleeding opening credits! “This will never end cause I want more”.

    I too was left quite deflated by the finale; I will certainly miss Gyda and I’m sad they didn’t explore her potential. And I agree it’s too fast paced; I would have wanted to see some more fall-out from the episode before.

    I still think Ragnar is a fascinating character (in a trainwreck kind of way) and still damn well written. And he still makes a horrifying amount of sense to me. (I know it’s generally bad style to shill your own blog, so if I’m violating any site policies, please delete; but I’ve written pretty extensively about this, so rather than hitting you with an even a larger wall of text here …. http://notsosilentsister.tumblr.com/post/48819918176/apparently-i-cant-stop-talking-about-ragnar-after-all).

    • Sam H.

      I think I knew that subconsciously, but it was the WAY his asshole tendencies came out that made no sense–and it wasn’t Ragnar, it was poor writing. The sacrifice thing was no surprise at all, which I think was the problem with it; we KNEW he was going to do it from the second the word “sacrifice” was mentioned, but we don’t know why (Ragnar himself admitted he didn’t think it was going to work).

      It’s all just confusing, and I feel like we missed about three episodes’ worth of material that would have created a satisfying explanation for his behavior in the final two episodes. All of my problems are, at heart, a writing issue. Everything would make sense if it was presented in a way that made sense, but it wasn’t set up properly in the beginning (if this was their endgame) and it wasn’t delivered effectively when the time came for Ragnar to do these things.

      Gyda dying bummed me out a lot. :( I would have loved to see more of her relationship with Lagertha and Ragnar, and how she grew up.

      Shilling is totally fine, haha! I’m always genuinely interested in people’s reactions, especially if they’re different than mine.

  • The only part of the last episode I really liked was when Bjorn was like, “THE FUCK, Dad? Mom’s going to feed your balls to the dog, you cheating assclown.” And I hope she does, too. Lagertha is my favorite character for obvious reasons (badass! super pretty! poof and braids!) and what worries me the most is that if Ragnar Lothdick decides to move to Sweden and impregnate Asslog (alternately A Slug) with a hoard of sons, we’ll see less of Lagertha. Also am I the only one who’s all, RAGNAR YOU HAVE A SON? What is Bjorn, chopped liver? I get that he wants some insurance sons, but damn. I know you were foretold to have a bunch of sons or whatever, but a fortune teller on the boardwalk once told me that I’d marry my high school boyfriend and that shit never came to pass either. DEAL WITH IT.

    • Sam H.

      EXACTLY. Poof and braids!!!

      I know historically (or “historically”) that’s how it went, but Lagertha still played a pretty big role in his life. Honestly I’d watch the shit out of a show with Lagertha in the lead role and Ragnar occasionally popping in to mourn what he lost.

      I DON’T UNDERSTAND THE SONS THING. It’s not like Ragnar even hates Bjorn yet! BE GRATEFUL FOR THE SON YOU HAVE.

  • I was hesitant to watch this show because I’ve seen other stuff by the show runner (Michael Hirst, the guy behind The Tudors) and I knew what his patterns were. This show looked like it might throw them, but then when episodes 6-8 rolled around, they came flooding in:

    1. Abusing his female characters for dubious historical reasons (writing The Tudors must’ve been like a damn spank bank for him. Dead women every season!)
    2. Abusing his female characters for presumed emotional resonance/plot devices because he’s too lazy to put the actual work in. Lagertha has a miscarriage because he needs to separate her from Ragnar because Plot, but we never see her really get to react. Gyda and Thyri die because hey, they were disposable, and killing characters makes things automatically deep! Especially if they have vaginas.
    3. Obsession with a male lead who behaves like a TOTAL ASSHOLE but whose asshattery the narrative never gives more than a handwave to. It’s like the inverse of a show like Mad Men or Boardwalk Empire; Hirst WANTS to write shows like that, but he does not have the skill, so his leads (Henry, Arthur, Ragnar) come off like whiny assholes. WHICH THEY ARE.
    4. Jumping from Point A to Point K with no explanation except maybe a time skip. This I could SORT OF allow for on The Tudors since history has long stretches of time when nothing interesting happened, but on a fictional show like this? No. No excuses.

    I read an interview with him post-finale where he said that he was surprised at Lagertha’s popularity- “who would have thought a female character would get so big on a show about vikings?” And that tells you everything you need to know. Michael Hirst writes shows about douchebag men and the women who get trampled in the process. The good stuff is incidental, not intentional.

    (And WE NEVER EVEN GOT THAT THREESOME.)

    • Sam H.

      Oh man, I didn’t even make that connection (I only got through one season of The Tudors, because JRM has a scary lizard face)! It makes sense.

      The female character abuse is SO INFURIATING because this show had some of the best and most dynamic women I’ve seen in a long time, up until episode 8. Even Siggy went from a subtle and brilliant strategizing survivalist to a pale Lady Macbeth imitation. It’s even more starkly obvious that it was a writing issue because Katheryn Winnick and Jessalyn Gilsig continued to knock it the fuck out, even when they were given nothing to work with.

      Ugh, fuck Michael Hirst. Thanks for the background info!

    • Christina

      Yes! The last two episodes were just retreads of his patterns on The Tudors, right down to the miscarriage and the treatment of it.

  • witchfire

    ” a fictional show like this? No. No excuses.”
    since when is Ragnar Lothbrok a “fictional character ?

    • He’s “historical” in the sense that someone named Ragnar Lothbrok may have existed at some point, but the details of his story are lost to history- if they were ever true in the first place. They don’t need to adhere slavishly to a historical timeline, because they don’t have one.

  • Celeste

    I wonder if we would be watching the same second half of this season if it hadn’t been picked up for a 2nd season. This whole show was a really new and expensive endeavor for History and comments from the actors in interviews prior to the airing of the show indicated that it’s future was really up in the air. Early reviews referred to it as a mini series. I wonder if they made sure they had the right material so through editing they could have the option to tie everything up with just these 9 episodes, and then material to set up plots for a second season. Since it was a ratings success and picked up for a 2nd season I feel like that accounts for the elevated narrative pace in the last few episodes as compared to the leisurely, consistent character development in the first 4 or 5. They got the go ahead for a second season and all the sudden it became about packing in as much plot set ups as possible.

    • Sam H.

      That’s what I wondered too! I mean, I imagined the filming was all done by the time the show aired, and I thought it WAS going to be a miniseries. But I think you’re right, they must have filmed stuff in the event it got picked up. It’s unfortunate, but I almost wish it WAS just a miniseries, if this is how they think they had to end the season.

  • I was so annoyed that they killed off Gyda and Thyri. Other than creepy Floki’s girlfriend, they were literally the only female supporting cast members.

    I’m so sick of history shows being sausage fests. Women tend to get ignored in them, despite the fact that we have always made up about half of the population. (Also, the Vikings had holy women who were respected as seers and healers, and the show has given all of that to male priest characters.) I felt the same way as you about Gyda- I was interested to see how this gentle girl would fit into this society.

    At this point I want to see Lagertha grab Siggy, Athelstan and that anonymous shield maiden from the last raid and go off and have her own adventures. Oh, and I guess Bjorn can come along too. ;)

    • Sam H.

      SERIOUSLY. It’s such a pain in the ass that tv people don’t think women were fascinating and worthwhile. And I didin’t know that about the holy women! Thanks for the info.

      AGREED 100%

  • thatguyagain

    I like the author’s articles and I have been reading the site for quite some time but I don’t see the “butchering” of strong female characters here because there weren’t many to begin with.

    Lagertha, as well as a couple of anonymous shieldmaidens, are pretty much the only ones that can take care of themselves. The rest are women that depend on their men for defense and have little to no power.

    I don’t see how the deaths of Siggy,Gyda and Thyri bring any major loss to the show.

    Thyri only existed to show how horrible the Jarl was because he married off his daughter like she was property, even against his wife’s wishes. I’m not sure how they could have expanded her storyline in a show about vikings going around murdering different kinds of people. In a show about Ragnar, his family and his desire for conquest, she couldn’t have been much more.

    Siggy would have been a female Rollo in Lagertha’s company and we already have a “can’t wait to turn allegiance character” in Rollo. Not to mention that if he is “the” Rollo of history then he is a very important historical character, quite a bit more important than even Ragnar.

    Geda is a just a kid so I’m not sure what major role she could have played further on.

    As for the “change” in Ragnar, I’m not seeing it. Ragnar is a would-be conqueror and these guys(or gals in some rare cases) are always major a-holes. Just because he has big blue eyes, is played by a supermodel and temporarily befriends a christian monk shouldn’t change the fact that he lead an attack on innocents at the monastery, killed that one guy that dared oppose him on the boat, screwed around(historical SPOILER: Ragnar was actually married 3 times) and invaded other lands to steal from their inhabitants.

    The dude is a freaking viking. There is no such things as a “good” raider.

    Why does it suddenly surprise people that he would give the monk up for sacrifice(when he is always seen imposing himself in front of Athelstan) or screw around with that princess? One of the very first things Lagertha says in this show to her husband is to not f**k too many women in Kattegut, implying that he can and does sleep around, just that he shouldn’t do it too often.

    To the above user(joubliette)regarding historical sausagefests: There is a good reason why women are left out(for the most part) of historical dramas and it has to do with the entertainment factor. With a few exceptions, women have always been in the background in major historical events.

    Most women in most times could only be powerful if they married a powerful man or if they were the offspring of a powerful man. Women were considered the most important resource for any nation in ancient and medieval times because you could only repopulate with them. This is another reason why women rarely went to war, because it is extremely dumb to throw the only beings that can boost your population into battle to be potentially killed.

    While watching smart women manouver imporant men around with their considerable charms can be entertaining, I’d wager most people that watch historical dramas do so in order to watch men bash each other around with swords, whether individually or in pitched battles, or to watch one MAN’s rise to power(which again, usually involves some sort of violence).

    An interesting historical show with a more feminist touch(that would be historically accurate as well) could be set in ancient Sparta, where women pretty much ran the show and had unheard of rights for those times(several hundred years before vikings): they were citizens equal to men, could divorce without losing wealth, Spartan women competed in Olympics and won, they wore short revealing outfits(they couldn’t grow their hair long though) and trained alongside boys until the boys were taken in the agoge. Motherhood was very important and the highest honor for a woman was to be the MOTHER(not wife) of a famed Spartan hero.

    Couple the feminine importance with scenes of Spartan wartimes and the fact that they had MANY slaves(helots) in their society and it would make for a very interesting show.

    Lagertha will probably be the only badass warrior woman on this show as she at least exists in legend/history and stories about shieldmaidens are pretty scarce, both in history and myth.

    • Sam H.

      I think we might have different definitions of what a “strong female character” is, and what characterization that might entail. Lagertha might have been the only physically strong portrayal of a character that we saw, but arguments could be made for the narrative strength of Siggy (and potentially Thyrri and Gyda, depending on how much effort a viewer wanted to put in with regards to constructing stories and motivations for them–and I spent many hours over the course of the season writing about this show, so it’s fair to say I might have overthought a few aspects of their shaky/nonexistent characterization and motivations.)

      I’m actually aware of history and what Viking raiders were like, and my interest in Ragnar’s character didn’t have a whole lot to do with his pretty blue eyes, believe it or not. I enjoyed seeing a ruthless, violent, ambitious character on television that also had a keen interest in science and exploration (which actually was a dropped thread from the first episode–he told Bjorn he wanted to see what people there were and what gods they worshipped, but that stopped being his thing after Lindisfarne, apparently), and a dedication to his wife and family. That’s why people are confused. The character we got in the first five or six episodes is NOT the character we ended up with, and all of the development that changed Ragnar happened offscreen. It’s not some kind of denial about who or what he was, it’s about the weak writing and lack of work the writers put in. Instead of taking us from point A to point B to point C and so on, they took us from A to D to F without any explanation of how we got there. We don’t even know how many months or years passed between Lagertha’s miscarriage and the sacrifices at Uppsala, and Ragnar and Lagertha apparently changed SO MUCH during that time that SOME explanation was required. But we didn’t get one.

      I’m fine with historically accurate (actually, not that historical or accurate, considering the whole show is conjecture loosely based on a legendary figure) characterization of Ragnar as a womanizing asshole high on his own mythmaking potential. I live for that shit. I just hate not having a solid basis for knowing when those became his ONLY character traits.

      And dude, there is a reason women are left out of history books, but it’s not actually a good reason? Women are left out because the men who wrote stuff down left them out, not because they didn’t do shit. And I (and probably a lot of readers of this site) really hate the implication that a dick is the only way you can possibly be relevant or interesting to to viewers, who arent actually monolith and can enjoy multiple different aspects of a show–female characters included, shockingly enough. One of my favorite historical dramas is Rome, where women were layered, interesting, and were actual priorities for the writers, and the show was AMAZING because of it.

      I fucking love watching people bash shit around…but that desire to see heads get busted is why I watch MMA or Tony Jaa movies or whatever. I expect a little more from a scripted television show. I love the violence on Vikings and I loved the initial plot lines of Ragnar’s ambition. I also loved Siggy’s ambition as a woman with none of Ragnar’s social opportunities and all of his guile, and think it would have been worthwhile to explore how she (and her daughter, and Gyda) might have navigated their world. The women of Viking society were powerful enough to get divorced, rule in their husbands’ stead, and fight alongside men if they chose. What’s wrong with paying respect to those things?

      The show you describe would be amazing, but:

      The reason we don’t have an awesome show about the badass women of Sparta is because–check this shit out–the men in charge of writing our pop-cultural television history think that nobody would want to watch a historical drama show that isn’t about men bashing each other around with swords or men having a rise to power. History repeats itself indefinitely and in all ways.

      Bringing it back around: I mean, at the end of the day, the show’s called VikingS. Not Ragnar Kills People While Rollo Complains Or Whatever. It’s meant to more or less be a view into a microcosm of Viking life and society, and has been since the beginning, and the apparent shift in the show’s priorities is what throws me off more than anything, except the accompanying shift in quality. I loved the show. I don’t love it now. I’m not the only person who feels let down a bit by the last few episodes, and it’s worth talking about why that is. I appreciate your comment, and if you haven’t watched Rome, I would try it out. It’s a good example of fascinating, well-written women in a historical drama with their own stuff going on.

      • Liz

        o snap

  • Jules

    I gotta agree with your assessment, especially about Ragnar. He and Lagertha were SO into each other, and had such a great relationship, even when they had that fight, that I saw no reasonable impetus for him turning on her so completely and so suddenly. Based on his previous behavior towards her, I honestly thought he’d comfort her about the miscarriage, even though he was disappointed. He didn’t even seem to care what she felt, and that flew in the face of every way he ever treated her previously.

    I was also shocked that he’d think about sacrificing Athelstan (sp, as usual), especially after the monk LITERALLY saved his life. Ugh. I was pissed. I still am. Maybe by the time season 2 comes out I will have forgiven the writers, but I kind of doubt it. Honestly, the only things I liked in these last two episodes were Bjorn’s reaction to Ragnar’s infidelity (that kid is bad ass) and Ass Slug’s huge wooly malamut (that long-haired Alaskan Malamute :) ) that was only there for a moment. Speaking of which…did the Vikings have Malamutes? That kinda threw me. Food for research, I guess.

    Anyway, speaking of Slug, I hate her. She’s got a huge mouth and she’s an arrogant slutmonkey, and I hope she has a girl.

    And it’s black.

    :-O

  • Liz

    I AM SO MAD ABOUT THIS FUCKING SHOW

  • witchfire

    only 2 weeks before season 2 begins

    i’m so hypped

  • witchfire

    it’s on TONIGHT !!!!

  • Nikki

    I think that if Siggy were to have poisoned Legertha, it would have been shown. This show doesn’t seem too big on leaving details to the imagination.