Walking Dead 4.2 – Infected


That'll do, Pig.

That’ll do, Pig.

Previously! We open with a full moon – a red full moon. That’s not ominous. There’s someone with a flashlight at the fence and hey, they’re holding up Templeton! Out there at night it’s a smorgasbord, orgasbord, orgasbord! But now that the terrific, humble pig is dead, there’s no need to send our rat Templeton out to the fairgrounds anymore. Instead, he’s fed to the Walkers by the flashlight carrier and blergh, poor little rat! This is not a good episode for critters.

(Be glad I went the Templeton the Rat route and not Lemmiwnks. Run little Lemmiwinks, run so far and fast! Before you get digested and fall out the Walker’s ass! Wait, I was supposed to not do that. Oops?) 

The delightful Karen and Tyreese romance gets cranked up to sweet and passionate makeouts in the library after he confesses how tore up by Zack’s death he is. (Is he? Were we supposed to care? Am I a bad person for not caring? That kid had red shirt all over him.) These two are so adorbs that he even starts singing to her the Cole Porter classic, “I’ve Got You Under My Skin.” Oh, I see what you’re doing there, writers, with the deep in the heart of me, we’re all infected, love is a DISEASE.

Okay, they might not mean that last one, but they should. (I actually think they do mean that.) “I said to myself: this affair never will go so well…” There’s some foreshadowing for you, and we’re barely six minutes in.

He invites her back to his cell for what those doing a bid call a prison tick check, but she’s not ready for that just yet, gives him a good night kiss and then breaks Horror Movie Rule #1 by going to investigate a noise at night in the dark. She doesn’t see anything, shrugs (NEVER SHRUG. That’s flirting with fate!) and heads back to Cell Block D.



Meanwhile, Patrick Glavin with the bleeding and the staggering and the gloy hey-hey, follows her delicious people scent (new Yankee Candle: Prison Spice – with Bergamont and Vanilla! Not to be confused with Pure Human, which has more gardenia and sweat notes than the homey smell of vanilla) all the way back to what we’ll now call the Convenience Store. Everyone is nicely stored in individual cells with no cell doors to protect them. Patrick falls onto some snoring dude’s throat and the sounds of hungry nomming are a lot like the snuffly noises of a snorer.

Protip: Set up blockades, even within your prison life. Have guards stationed at intervals to man the locked doors. Even if you’re not expecting Walkers, you should always expect Raiders! Have these people learned nothing from The Governor?

Patrick, with no more worries about gluten or lactose intolerance, has been eating his fill all night long (all night!) when he hears someone cough in their sleep. Mmm, living flesh is so much better than mostly dead flesh, amirite? As he shambles off, Snoring Got Him Killed Guy has just turned and is hungry. Why, he feels like he’s practically hollow inside! (Because he is. Nice George Romero nod with the guts falling out.)

Rick passes the baby off to Beth so he can do stuff and thangs with Carl outside. Maggie and Glenn are sleeping in one of the guard towers (smart!). Glenn has found a Polaroid camera and snaps a cute picture of Maggie sleeping. That’s a keeper, no matter what Maggie says.

Michonne wants to head out again, itchy for some M&Ms and comic books. Rick and Carl see her to the fence before going to their garden (teeming with worms among the decaying leaf matter. Oho, a little more foreshadowing.). We learn a few things:

  • Rick took away Carl’s gun, and he has to earn it back. Parenting in the apocalypse: you’re doing it right
  • Carl doesn’t wear the Sheriff’s hat anymore because he’s a farmer now. Aww, he’s still little enough for dress up.
  • The fence can’t take any morrrrre of this, Captain! There are lots of Walkers leaning against it to the point of it needing to be shored up every few feet. Uh, let’s get on that, guys? Surely there’s a Home Depot/Lowes nearby with some bags of cement and some fencing? Just dig some post holes on the safe side and string up a new fence. And, you know, put up some extra rails along the horizon for added strength?

Gunshots sound from inside the prison. Maggie is screaming for Rick to come on, Michonne turns back towards the prison as Maggie and Carol shout, “It’s not a break; we followed the plan!” Yeah, but your plan wasn’t complete, gang.

Michonne gets caught by two Walkers while trying to get back inside. She falls and twists her ankle, leaving Carl to grab up a rifle by the gate and blast one until she can get up and let Maggie handle the other. The Walkers all move back to the fence in search of better eating.

It’s absolute pandemonium inside because these are stragglers and Woodbury peeps, and they deserve to die. THERE, I SAID IT. People are screaming and running around like lunatics leaving Glenn, Daryl and Rick to take out the Walkers. Carol finds one guy with a bite on his leg, so she drags him into a cell to amputate, because she’s got her head screwed on right. And that’s when she sees he has a bite on the back of his neck. That’s not good. He begs her to take care of his girls Lizzie and Mika like they were her own. (Um, maybe not like they were her own, seeing as Sophia got herself eaten up.)

Tyreese saves Karen (aww! Except for how the song says, “Don’t you know, you fool, you can never win?”) Daryl, Rick and Glenn dispatch the last of the prison Walkers when they find Patient Zero: Patrick, who is necking with some girl. By which I mean he is eating her neck. (Some boys just don’t have any finesse.) They do a cell by cell sweep to make sure they’re all gone when everyone tries not to tell Rick how stupid it is that he’s doing this with his pocket knife. You’re not peeling an apple, Sheriff.

Rick finds a guy with bloody eyes and no bite marks in one of the cells, and now he has all neurons firing. Guy at the fence! Patrick! Babe, Pig in the End Times! (The least popular of that franchise.) I didn’t see the pig with bloody eyes, though. It’s like everyone forgot that there are still things like cholera, SARS and the mumps what with the whole “turn into the undead” thing mucking up the world. It was just a few years ago where we were all terrified by the swine flu, Rick. (Also, thanks for nothing, Gwyneth Paltrow.)

Me after a full slab of Dreamland ribs.

Me after a full slab of Dreamland ribs.

Carol brings the dying man’s girls to say goodbye and to give Lizzie (the older one) her Knife Skills final. Lizzie has a panic attack and fails the test, so Carol tells the girls to look away so she can jam her pig sticker into the man’s ear. Smart. That’s a straight line to the old brain meat, Carol, good thinking. The girls are devastated; Carol holds them tight while mentally reevaluating her class’s syllabus.

Let’s talk about this new disease. What is it? Flu-like symptoms that moves quickly, Doc says. And viruses (most likely it’s a virus) move swiftly through close quarters. So they all do the smart thing and pull out the CDC’s guide on isolation and quarantine. Everyone in Cell Block D is in quarantine, and anyone showing signs of being sick will be isolated on Death Row. Fitting, if not a bit anvilly.

Karen coughs. Nooooooo! (Look, I have a thing for Melissa Ponzio, okay? She’s only five days older than me, cute as a button, and represents an often underutilized portion of the population: non teenage, non blonde females.) Karen also agrees to be isolated, even though she looks scared, and says that she heard another person coughing earlier. Smart and I like that she’s thinking of the group, not just herself.

Daryl heads out to bury the dead and nods when the Doc says to cover his face holes when doing so. Carol asks if he’s going to be okay. “Mm hm. Got to be.” Yes, yes you do, Daryl Dixon, because I will break up with this show and key its car if they get rid of you. Show? You will not be getting your records back if you lose Daryl Dixon.

Carol lays into Lizzie outside at the fence where the Walkers moan, hungry. It was weak, Lizzie not being able to kill her daddy. (Carol? You didn’t kill Sophia. I love you, but come on.) In today’s world, a girl has to be able to kill in a pinch. The little sister, easily the brattier of the two, calls her sister stupid, then tells Carol that she’s just messed up, not weak. Huh? Mika is at that awful age for little girls, the 8 – 10 years sneaky/bratty mark. Meh.

Daryl and Rick strengthen their bro-ship, and if there’s someone that can tell it to you straight, it’s Daryl Dixon. Rick needs his gun back. He’s not going to go crazy, they all believe in him, etc. And that’s when the fence starts to go. They race to where Maggie is trying to stab the Walkers dead to keep them from pushing on it.

Michonne gets some First Aid from Beth for her ankle. We get our first hint at a bigger back-story for Michonne when Judith starts crying and Michonne gets real stiff and upset. Huh. Okay, so we know that her arm less pets were her ex and her brother, and there was hint of abuse there, so… File that away.

Sasha joined the folks at the fence line to help clear it when she spies a pile of half-eaten rats. What the what, now? Someone’s feeding the Walkers? (My money is on Lizzie, she of the naming the Walkers in the previous episode. She probably read Warm Bodies and thought it was romantic.) More Walkers press up against the fence and we get a seriously disgustingly awesome shot of a Walker being pressed through the chain link.

For the best, fluffiest mashed zombie, you want to use a zombie ricer.

For the best, fluffiest mashed zombie, you want to use a zombie ricer.


Rick gets an idea. He needs the truck, though.

Quick moment with Carl – making crosses for his atheist buddy, just like a southern white boy – and Carol, who wants to know if he’s going to tattle on her. Carl doesn’t want to lie to his dad, but Carol thinks there’s no need to argue, parents just won’t understand.

Beth sings more Tom Waits while trying to get Judith to stop crying as Michonne does calisthenics in her cell. Beth wants to hand off Judith to her, but this is clearly not okay. Michonne holds the baby away from her, her face screwing up. She will not cuddle that baby. Nope. Not even if Judith starts whimpering. Nuh uh. Not gonna… Michonne’s lip wobbles, her face screws up for a completely different reason as she pulls Judith against her cheek, her face falling as she cries, really cries.

Let’s hear it for Tisch-educated Danai Gurira for selling that scene. Not one word of dialog, and yet we’re already forming a backstory for her and a lost child in our heads.

If you don't love this character and this actress, then you are WRONG.

If you don’t love this character and this actress, then you are WRONG.

At one point Beth mentions that we have the words orphan and widow, but we don’t have a word for an adult who has lost their child.  I think we do, and I think it is “Michonne.”

Outside, Rick rides in the trailer being pulled by Daryl’s truck in order to draw away the Walkers from the fence. RELEASE THE PIGGIES! It looks like it’s our last time for Ham and Eggs as Rick grabs a piggie, slices along the ham – that’s the actual butcher term for the hind leg – and tosses them to the hungry Walkers. They ride further towards the woods and repeat the pork cutlets (No fakin’! Bacon!) to lure more and more Walkers away. Rick looks so disheartened here. He’s back to doing the ugly work.

Was I the only one worried about all the damn blood splattering on his face? Blood, semen, snot, spit: these are all things you should avoid getting on your face when there is a pandemic sweeping through your living quarters, people.

Yeah, yeah, they were going for the more picturesque “he has more blood on himself” thing, but come on. Model good behavior, Sheriff. Also, when they were driving around, they should have had a clean up crew at the fence line, dragging bodies away towards the woods. No sense in leaving that dead weight up against the weakened structure.

Now that the fence is somewhat repaired, Carol has the girls there to learn a lesson about life and death. They have to be stronger, more willing to dispense death like a pig to a group of Walkers. She cuts off the blossom to some wild mustard (I hope they’re utilizing that!) and tucks it behind Lizzie’s ear and hands her a giant knife. It’s the Apocalypse version of a Quinciñera. Catorce-ñera? I didn’t catch how old Lizzie was. Sweet Thirteen, whatever. They sing, “Now that I’m a woman…everything has changed!” and Lizzie’s transformation into strong independent End Times woman is mostly complete.

Rick dismantles the pig shed (which came first, the pigs being sick or the people? My money is on the pigs) as he tells Carl they need to stay away from Judith until this whole swine flu thing is figured out. And that’s when Carl NARCS on Carol. (I actually approve.) He does think it’s okay that Carol’s doing this, just not that she’s keeping it secret. Rick pours precious gasoline all over the stack of wood and sets it on fire. He thanks Carl for telling him; it’s clear Rick isn’t going to stop her.

Looking tired yet resolved, Rick hands Carl a Beretta 92 FS (the preferred handgun of the military and law enforcement, btw). He then pulls out of a tool box his holster and his Colt Python, a beautiful piece of machinery with a 6” barrel (standard is 4”), made of stainless steel and featuring an adjustable rear target sight with red paint on the front sight for quick target acquisition. It, like the Beretta, has both double and single action capability. It has a wood handle made from the heartwood of a cocabolo tree, and probably retails for about $1100. (I applaud the symbolism in everything, show writers.)

In short, like Rick, this gun is a mother fucker, both literally and figuratively. This is a special gun for a special man. Modern standard issue would either be the Beretta or a 9mm handgun. Rick’s gun is the gun of an Old West Sheriff. It’s the gun of justice, of survival, for when all that stood between chaos and order was a good man with an even better gun.

Ol’ Sheriff Blue Eyes is back, and those eyes have never seen things more clearly than they do now. And what they’re seeing isn’t good.

He reaches out to touch Carl’s bare head and realizes that he has blood all over him. He peels his shirt off and tosses it into the fire. Refined by the flames, now he’s more pure, more sure, and harder than ever. And in the background, the constant moans of the Walkers drones on.

Inside, Tyreese has a bunch of posies in his hand, looking for love in all the wrong places, and humming “You’d Be So Nice To Come To Home To,” under his breath. He gets to the cell where Karen has been sequestered (we assume) and sees blood everywhere. Oh. There’s a drag trail that leads away, so naturally he follows it all the way outside. There are two trails leading out the door. (The guy Karen mentioned, is my guess.)

"Oh, Bubba, no...." D:

“Oh, Bubba, no….” D:

As the original Cole Porter song goes, “In spite of the warning voice that comes in the night, and repeats – how it yells in my ear! Don’t you know, you fool, ain´t no chance to win?”

Outside lie two charred, burned-beyond-recognition bodies. He staggers at the sight of them. “I would sacrifice anything come what might, for the sake of havin’ you near…” He drops to his knees and sees Karen’s bracelet on a burned-to-charcoal wrist.

Oh my god. Continuing with the Cole Porter, it’s clear that on the Walking Dead: Anything Goes. (And to poor Karen, “In the silence of my lonely room I think of you night and day.” Poor Tyreese.)

Yeah. This season is going to hurt.

So which do you think happened first: pigs sick or people sick with the flu? (My money is on the pig.)

Also, are you for or against tighter security inside the prison? I’m still for the extra guards monitoring the coming and going of bodies into populated areas. Also, there should be a decontamination chamber before coming or going, a la Karen Silkwood. Even if it’s just a vinegar bath. Loot the Lysol stores!

They need to step up their security/health guidelines, regardless.

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  • Suzanne

    (new Yankee Candle: Prison Spice – with Bergamont and Vanilla! Not to be confused with Pure Human, which has more gardenia and sweat notes than the homey smell of vanilla) I love you as certain dark things are to be loved / in secret, between the shadow and the soul

    OMG the feels I had over Michonne holding that baby and sobbing. On a show where EVERYONE has lost people (“We have all of these widows and orphans…what do you call someone who’s lost a child? You’d think they’d have a word for that”) it takes an incredible moment to break through how we’ve been desensitized to loss, and damn, that woman brings it.

    I will be laughing over zombie ricer for days.

    • Ahahaha, you get bonus points for the song lyrics alongside the Yankee Candle humor. (Are you surprised that I didn’t say it had the piquant taste of Almond? I’m saving that for the Baby Judith candle.)

      MICHONNE. I have fourteen doodled sad/crying faces on my notepad during that scene. Also, “SAD SOBBING WAAAAAH!” underlined about ten times. Oh, that woman. She’s so strong, so capable, and so human underneath it all. I cannot WAIT for her backstory. Ahh, you reminded me to add in an edit!

      I love you for knowing what a ricer is. *Unlike Buffy’s Thanksgiving guests.

  • cindergal

    Poor Tyreese! I had figured out from the two trailers they released before the season began that Karen was toast – I hate when the show itself spoils me for these things. I really liked her and I’m sad that she’s gone, but this will obviously mean big things for Ty’s character arc (woman character dying to serve epic manpain: shocking). Good thing I like Tyreese.

    I cannot figure out why they don’t have guards on D block at least, where everyone seems moments away from dying and turning! Stupid! And I think this virus started with the pigs, because Hershel said “that’s the way it starts” with birds or pigs, and Hershel is always right – or at least, he has been ever since that whole “they can be cured” thing in Season 2. ;-)

    I really didn’t like Carol much this episode, which makes me sad, because I usually love her. I understand why she is doing what she’s doing, but I didn’t like the way she was with the girls (should their first kill really be their own father? Seriously? And the kid’s “weak” because she couldn’t do it? Jesus.) And I didn’t like her asking Carl to keep the knife teaching from his dad and especially telling him that that wasn’t lying. Carl did the right thing and I’m glad to see his moral compass has swung back around, and that hug with his dad was lovely to see, too.

    I don’t much care for those two girls, either. Is that awful? I find them really bratty and annoying. Judith Grimes playing with cups made up for a lot, though, as did Michonne. Michonne! I love her so much. I’m looking forward to finding out that backstory because Danai is going knock it out of the park, no doubt.

    I really enjoyed Daryl’s scene with Rick at the grave, too, and not just because of Norman Reedus’ biceps. *g* Daryl has grown up so much, and their relationship is probably my favorite one on the show at this point. And poor Rick, who had to go from feeding those piglets to feeding them to walkers in less than an episode. Sheriff Rick is back, though, and that’s a good thing.

    • I missed the trailers!! (You know me and my spoiler-phobia.) I thought Karen was going to be on for the whole season given Melissa Ponzio saying something at WolfsBane (the London Con) about how she was sure they were going to kill her on Teen Wolf because of her job with TWD. (THEY KEPT HER ON TW AND KILLED HER HERE. D: I just want her to work, haha.) I wish they didn’t refrigerate her to give Tyreese something to grow from, too. Boo, show, boo.

      I totally think the virus started with the pigs. Hahaha at Hershel being right about the cure. In the apocalypse, “cure” only refers to how you prepare meat, folks!

      As for Carol, I really didn’t like her here, either, which is upsetting because I LOVE CAROL. They have her in overcompensation mode, and I don’t like it. She didn’t even kill her own child, yet she’s expecting children to kill their only surviving parent? And she should know that lying by omission is still lying. I’m glad Carl didn’t listen to her. That’s a real sign of maturity on his part, which was nice. I just don’t like that Carol is changing so drastically in order to have that happen.

      (Those girls are totally unlikable.) Michonne is still my favorite female character, and has been. She eclipsed Maggie way back. The only thing that can beat my love for Michonne is Daryl Dixon in a muscle tee. Hahahaha, HE IS DELIGHTFUL IN ALL THINGS, especially when he’s all, “You can do it, bro, I got your back” with Rick. I cannot fight that, come on! I’m only human.

      Andrew Lincoln is so good at giving us a story with nothing more than his body language. Doing what needs to be done and hating that he’s the one that will have to do it, all in a sigh and a cut with his knife. I love that actor. LOVE.

  • cindergal

    Oh, and I meant to say – I think there’s more to the story with Lizze, and Mika’s comment to Carol that she’s “not weak, she’s messed up.” I mean, that whole conversation was bizarre, so it’s got to mean something. Given Lizzie’s affection for Walker Nick, I wonder if she’s the one who’s been feeding them at the fence.

    • Lizzie feeding them – that was my speculation, too. I feel like there must have been more dialog to that whole exchange out by the fence with Carol that was cut, because it didn’t quite make sense, did it?

  • Karen

    Well, to be fair to Carol, she totally wasn’t going to have the Lizzie stab her father at first. She was ushering both girls out of the cell after their good-byes to their father so that she could do what had to be done in private. It was only after Lizzie said that she wanted to do it that Carol allowed her to try to stab her father in the head. But Lizzie broke down and Carol had to do it in the end. And she *did* give them a hug afterwards.

    But calling Lizzie weak afterwards was a bit harsh.

    Poor Michonne. Poor Tyreese. Next week should be interesting.

    • Yes, you’re absolutely correct that Carol had initially planned on doing it herself. (She should have just stuck to that plan.) It’s that whole weak part that has me frustrated with Carol (who I love, please understand!).

      Next week – heck, the whole season looks like it’s going to take us for an emotional spin, don’t you think? (Yay! Can’t wait!!)

  • Allie “The Wife Norman Reedus Doesn’t Know He Has”

    This is the ONLY show that I talk to. I scared myself and my dog when I shrieked out Darryl’s name at some point. As if he could hear me.

    I caught an episode of “The People’s Couch” (which I am hopelessly entertained by) in which people were watching the Walking Dead and it cracked me up.

    • Hahahaha, I love that you talk to the show! (FTR, I do, too. I can’t help myself.) I’ve not heard of the People’s Couch! I watch The Talking Dead after the show airs, so I’ll have to look into this new one, thanks for the heads up!

  • sati

    I kind of interpreted the “weak” comment to be more about Lizzie not knowing her limits and not sticking to what she says she’s going to. Cause yeah- totally week to say “I’ll do it” then cave and have hysterics. No one asked her to do it, but if you volunteer, you should follow through. Just my 2 cents.

    • I can get behind that, actually.

      • cindergal

        But, you know, she’s like thirteen and she’s never killed a walker and this was her dad. ;-) You have to grow up fast in the ZA, though!

        (I still love Carol.)

        • I can get behind THIS, too. :D

          I like being behind things, what can I say?

  • Chris

    I was just going to lurk, and then I had a passing thought that pushed it’s way into the kitchen, sat down on the couch, turned on the tv, and refused to leave. And I need you to dissuade me of it STAT!

    What if trying to make up for past mistakes is Carol’s theme this season? The knife lessons, and pushing the girls to grow up faster than she made Sophia grow up are in line with that.BUT WHAT IF SHE’S TRYING TO MAKE UP FOR THE DAMAGE PATRICK CAUSED. SHE KNEW HE WASN’T FEELING WELL. AND THEN PEOPLE DIED. WHAT IF SHE’S THE ONE WHO KILLED SCOTT’S MOM AND UNNAMED COUGHING GUY TO STOP IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN.


    • I WISH I COULD TELL YOU THAT IT IS RIDICULOUS, BUT I THINK THAT HAS MERIT. I def. think the knife lessons/pushing the girls is directly related to Sophia. BUT HER KILLING KAREN AND THE OTHER DUDE!??!?!

      ….man, if that turns out to be true, a) I will tip my hat to you and send you a basket of goodies and b) I will be SHOCKED, SHOCKED I SAY because that is haaaaaaaaaard. That’s like Merle level “Gotta be done” stuff. Which would seriously mess with her burgeoning relationship with Daryl, I think.

      Dude. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD. I like the way your brain is working, let me tell you. I think we’re not thinking dark enough, so I really believe you’re onto something. (I’m sitting here with my hands over my mouth as I read your comment, I hope you know!) <3

  • Aaron L

    Superb superb review once again Laura. I was busting out laughing, and smiling ear to ear reading threw it at work last night. Yankee candle scents take the cake.

    Ok few points here. I actually Really liked Carol this episode. After all she is one of those cantgiveanameto parents who lost a child (there couldn’t be any HORRIBLE feeling in the world worse than that) shes doing whatever she “thinks” is best to get these kids trained for the HERE and NOW.
    So if Carl does tell Rick, and she has any speculation rick would try to stop her. Well she just cant take that chance. Yeah its a lil shady, but thinking from her POV I feel shes just doing what she HAS to to get these kids taught so they aren’t so naïve and green like Sophia.

    Now to Karen. I was under the impression she was Sir Sniffs A Lots mom. If so, she wasn’t that broken up about him. maybe she figured it was only a matter of time. Now when she went in the bathroom area she did grab some of that water and wash her face and take a drink. Maybe that’s how she got sick.

    Michonne……. that’s all I gotta say bout that.

    Im sure Ill think of more once I post, so for now I leave you with this ;)

    Lemmiwinks journey a distance far and fast
    to find a way out a Walker’s ass
    the road ahead is filled with danger and fright
    but push onward Lemmiwinks with all of you might

    • Aaron! You know I wait, biting my nails, for you to get online and come talk End Times with me. :D

      I watched that episode – the S2 ender – where Sophia comes out of the barn and Carol loses it, falls to the ground, devastated, as Daryl holds her and Rick does the Dirty Work. There’s no doubt in my mind that she holds herself responsible for that, for Sophia running off when that herd came up on them on the highway. She’s absolutely teaching the kids at the prison how to survive so they don’t fall victim to Sophia’s fate. I think for me, I would prefer her standing her ground and saying, “Yeah, I’m doing this. It’s important and it needs to be done,” rather than casting her eyes to the side and asking Carl if he’s gonna tattle on her. I feel like she has enough spine to say what’s what – or she’s been building up to be able to say that. It felt like a step back for me.

      Now, having said that, I BELIEVE SHE WOULD DO THINGS JUST AS SHE DID. The whole, “you’re not gonna tell on me, are you?” attitude. Because she’s human, and she’s a seriously damaged human from long ago. Everyone has their moments of weakness. (Hell, look at how impassioned we’re all getting about that small moment for a character no one gave two shits about in S1! That’s the power of the character arc she’s been on, that we want her to become Stands With A Fist What Holds Yon Zombie’s Head.)

      LOL at Sir Sniffs A Lot. His mom also had curly brown hair and was fairly petite, so I get why you made the mental switch. (Hahaha at her being all cold. “Well…. *sigh* There goes that kid.” *whistles and gets another slab of ribs*) There were a lot of folks in Woodbury that had similar looks – it’s easy to be confused when you have a cast of 70. I watched The Talking Dead and they said there were 45 people in Cell Block D and 15 died, so they’re whittling it down to make it easier for us.

      I would kiss your forehead for that Lemmiwinks verse, so you know. “Freedom from the ass of doom is the treasure you will win!”

      OMG THE SHEETS OF PROTECTION. Yeah, that’s gonna have a DR of -3 and reduce your AP by 10. COME ON, PEOPLE.

  • Aaron L

    see told ya. soon as I hit post I remembered

    you know with that fence coming down outside maybe they could hang sheets all around the prison. that seems to do wonders. UGHHH!!! Cmon people really your in a prison.

  • Karen

    I could see either Carol or Dr. S. burning Karen and David’s bodies after they died to prevent the spread of the disease. And that could be what happened, as we know that the people die with lots of blood leakage from this “flu”. I would hate for it to be Carol though, as I think Tyreese is not going to look at it from that standpoint, but from the standpoint that she was murdered by whoever burnt the bodies.

    I wonder if, when we learn Michonne’s tragic past grief, will she and Carol bond together in unity of MWLC’s (mothers who’ve lost children)? That would be kind of awesome. But I’ll bet the writers never have Carol directly reference Sophia again.

    What I’m really hoping is that by giving Carol a couple of kids to take care of, that the writers aren’t going to go the route of making her a “sexless mother” type. It seems that so many shows make it seem as if anyone over the age of 30 is too old for sex and might as well be neutered. We people over 30 LOVE sex, dammit! I want to see older folk having just as much sexyfuntimes as Maggie and Glenn! Is that so very wrong of me?

    • I don’t want it to have been Carol, either. That seems pretty hard core for her. (OOH. WHAT IF IT WAS CARL.) I totally agree that Tyreese is going to be very emotional about this and will think of it as murder, too. (Until he hears the whole story and learns they were already dead before being burned? I hope? Cry, cry!)

      If the writers forget about Sophia, that would be a huge disservice to multiple characters. I mean, it tore Daryl up – he went off looking for her for days. And as a fellow “woman over 30,” I FULLY SUPPORT OLDER WOMEN GETTING SOME AND DO NOT THINK IT IS WRONG OF YOU IN THE SLIGHTEST. :D (Then again, they let Karen and Tyreese form a relationship! The actress who plays Karen is 41!)

  • Karen

    Ah, but Karen and Tyreese hadn’t got as far as having sex yet (Karen told him she wouldn’t be accompanying him to his cell as they’d not want to stop once they got started and she wasn’t ready for that yet). So Tyreese is still gonna have to wait to get him some, poor man.

    It IS nice, though, that they even show older people on this show, having sex or no. So many shows seem to cater to the younger set and only have beautiful young thangs in lead roles. And even better is that these people don’t all look like models, and aren’t afraid to look as if they’re dirty and smelly, and don’t have faces full of perfect makeup. Baby steps?

    • Well, let me say this: I have been an actress for years. And as soon as I hit my late 30s, I was no longer needed, unless it was to play a mother standing in the background. They definitely want young people and nothing but. It’s really disheartening. Fortunately cable shows like this are using more seasoned actors and actresses, showcasing a wider range of ages. I want people with life in their faces, you know? (I think you do!)

  • Aaron L

    Wow what a coinkydink I too wait by, biting my nails waiting for you review and replies ;)

    I totally get and understand the step-back feel of Carol this ep, and agree with what you say, but she was under the rule of the Rictatorship for awhile, and I don’t think she wants him mad or disappointed in her.
    That would have been better though, for her to just say ” I don’t give a shit what anyone says, these kids need to learn, and Im going to teach them !”

    Ooooo I like the idea of Carl BBQing Karen and noname, that would be something, but my money is on Bob the Alchy. He didn’t really show up this ep, and I have a feeling hes going to play a bigger part in the near future. He seems Very suspicious to me. My spidey sense went off right away with him.

    Ahhh Lemmiwinks :) You are the Gerbil King… All Hail the Gerbal King !!!

    • That’s a great point, Ricktatorship. And her nature for years has been a woman who pleases. That’s not going to go away so easily. (That’s why I want it to stop – I want her to be strong and healed and yadda yadda, but this is a show that has real people reactions and not perfected Television Show Reactions. Which is why it’s so awesome.)

      I think you’re right with the BBQ Master being ol’ Army Medic Von Boozehound, Bob. They made too much of a big deal of him being in the group during Ep 1 for him to not play a more important role throughout the remaining eps of the season. MY SPIDEY SENSES ARE ALSO TINGLING.

      (And now I want to watch the old animated LoTR movies. Where there’s a whip *kaSHEE!* there’s a way!)

  • Aaron L

    LOL those LOTR movies are so horribly…. good. That’s all I would watch before the movies came out. I tried to get my 6 year old to watch the animated Hobbit this summer break, but he wasn’t having any of it lol. I am proud to say though that I had him watch Episode IV for the first time, and he LOVED it and wanted more and more. So we watched ALL 6 movies in a couple days.It was like watching for the very first time again through his eyes. Very surreal. Now hes a Star Wars geek like the rest of us Cool nuts out there. He goes to bed every night watching one of the movies almost every night, and has taken over my collection of star wars guys. My wife doenst seem to be as proud as I am though, huh go figure ;) She thinks I turned him to the darkside, and he is going to be Vader this Halloween..

    I know off subject from WD, but you gotta brag when you can ;) and Id thought youd appreciate that.

    • YES, YOU ALWAYS BRAG ABOUT RAISING CHILDREN PROPERLY. And in my house, all things Ralph Bashki are considered Good and Proper. I loved those movies when I was a kid (and the Secret of Nihm and The Last Unicorn!) and was so excited to get my kids to watch them, too. I’ve gotten them into all of my geek stuff (Star Wars, Star Trek, fantasy, etc.) but they were TERRIFIED by The Dark Crystal, which is one of my top 10 movies of all time. Oh, so sad.

      Star Wars kids are the best kids. Especially when they know to appreciate the Rebellion trilogy over the Imperial trilogy. ME-SA NO LIKE 1-3. =/

  • Aaron L

    YES IV-VI WAAAAAAAAAY better. My boy likes them better too, so I feel good bout that. he-sa not like Jar Jar either, so I was phewing there ;)

    OMG Secret of Nhim and The Last Unicorn are AWESOME. They were so suspenseful for a child watching. not like todays kids movies. Secret of Nhim especially was watched so much, we ruined the tape recording of it. We had to wait so long to tape it again, then there was much rejoicing.

    kids these days DO need parents like us to teach them PROPERLY :)